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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree.  Obama not only understands the issues intimately, he can articulate the issues brilliantly.  Obama is NOT an empty suit, and so I suspect you missed my entire point if that&#039;s what you extracted from my post.

I will say this: if I had to vote again between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton I&#039;d still vote for Obama, without a doubt.

Not because Obama&#039;s fulfilled his promises -- he hasn&#039;t.  Not because he&#039;s been effective in pushing his agenda -- he hasn&#039;t.

But that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Hillary Clinton.  I disagree with Clinton&#039;s policies.  The policies of Obama&#039;s that I am most angry about (Afghanistan, health care, treasury policies, middle east, etc.) are more or less the policies Hillary would have ushered in proudly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree.  Obama not only understands the issues intimately, he can articulate the issues brilliantly.  Obama is NOT an empty suit, and so I suspect you missed my entire point if that&#8217;s what you extracted from my post.</p>
<p>I will say this: if I had to vote again between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton I&#8217;d still vote for Obama, without a doubt.</p>
<p>Not because Obama&#8217;s fulfilled his promises &#8212; he hasn&#8217;t.  Not because he&#8217;s been effective in pushing his agenda &#8212; he hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Hillary Clinton.  I disagree with Clinton&#8217;s policies.  The policies of Obama&#8217;s that I am most angry about (Afghanistan, health care, treasury policies, middle east, etc.) are more or less the policies Hillary would have ushered in proudly.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnnyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Stan, did you go through &#039;08 with your head up your ass or what?

&quot;Obama’s message, his symbolism, and his command of issues awoke a sleeping giant in this country: a grass-routes movement high on populism, and deeply suspicious of beltway elites and special interests.&quot;

His command of the issues? Sorry, he never had it...still doesn&#039;t. Symbolism, for sure. The guy is nothing but symbolism. Those of us with half a brain were hip to his empty suit parade from the get go. Now we&#039;re stuck with him thanks to a bunch of snide, brain dead Obamabots who bought the media hype of this bullshit artist. Let me clue you nitwits in for the next round. When the MSM is supporting someone and working overtime to sell you some persona, don&#039;t vote for that guy! The corporate media doesn&#039;t give a shit about you. They don&#039;t give a shit about America. They sold us George Bush and the Iraq War for Christ sakes. You really think that they were pushing Obama because he was a populist who would protect us from special interests. Earth to Stan, stay out of politics, you suck at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Stan, did you go through &#8217;08 with your head up your ass or what?</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama’s message, his symbolism, and his command of issues awoke a sleeping giant in this country: a grass-routes movement high on populism, and deeply suspicious of beltway elites and special interests.&#8221;</p>
<p>His command of the issues? Sorry, he never had it&#8230;still doesn&#8217;t. Symbolism, for sure. The guy is nothing but symbolism. Those of us with half a brain were hip to his empty suit parade from the get go. Now we&#8217;re stuck with him thanks to a bunch of snide, brain dead Obamabots who bought the media hype of this bullshit artist. Let me clue you nitwits in for the next round. When the MSM is supporting someone and working overtime to sell you some persona, don&#8217;t vote for that guy! The corporate media doesn&#8217;t give a shit about you. They don&#8217;t give a shit about America. They sold us George Bush and the Iraq War for Christ sakes. You really think that they were pushing Obama because he was a populist who would protect us from special interests. Earth to Stan, stay out of politics, you suck at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you about this health care reform bill being a gift to the health insurance industry, but as far as the H1N1 being an industry-created virus, do you have any links to support that allegation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about this health care reform bill being a gift to the health insurance industry, but as far as the H1N1 being an industry-created virus, do you have any links to support that allegation?</p>
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		<title>By: jacksmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacksmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CRITICAL!! From jacksmith - Working Class

My Fellow Americans and People Of The World

A strong Government-run MEDICARE like Public Option is CRITICAL!!

A Medicare Buy-in at 55 is a GOOD! idea. But!, not a substitute for a strong Medicare like public option CHOICE for everyone. Nor is the (FEHBP). Without a strong public option on day one the Senate health-care bill is a disaster for the American People and the World. Therefore you must KILL!! it. Without a strong public option the health-care reform bill is MUCH WORSE! than what we have now, and what we have now is a catastrophe. SO YOU MUST KILL!! IT.

What is proposed in the Senate is the worst case scenario for health-care reform. It would shift trillions of taxpayer, public and private dollars into the hands of the private insurance industry (The single most costly, deadly and dangerous product sold in America). And it would compel by law millions of Americans to financially support this oxymoronic criminal enterprise. You cant have a MANDATE WITHOUT A STRONG PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE!

You will have NO! realistic way of controlling cost and quality. Cost will continue soaring through the roof bleeding the American people dry, and KILLing our economy. And our quality of healthcare will continue to decline below our current ranking of &quot;WORST! quality of healthcare delivery in the developed World&quot;.

H1N1 IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION!

I have to tell you now that the H1N1 virus is a man-made WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION! and TERROR! It is a WEAPONIZED version of a flu virus. It has swept the planet infecting millions. And causing a global pandemic that has killed tens of thousands, and injured millions.

The H1N1 virus is the product of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! It was released in the U.S. in Texas in early January of this year, but not recognized until around April in California. The reason I know this is because when it came to America, it came to see me FIRST! How sweet...

This was around the time the MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! assaulted the Whitehouse with all their devils deals to cripple and weaken YOUR! healthcare reform. Especially your right to have a single payer system like HR676 (Medicare For All) which most of you wanted.

They don&#039;t even want you to have your HUGE!!! compromise position of a strong government-run MEDICARE like Public Option CHOICE. To compete with their DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, MURDEROUS, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT PRODUCT (The single most costly, deadly and dangerous product sold in America).

They also wanted to take away your rights to have your government meet it&#039;s responsibility to use it&#039;s full power to regulate, negotiate, and control drug cost, healthcare cost and quality. Something every other civilized country in the developed World has done for it&#039;s people. Their Greed! moral degeneracy and lack of patriotism knows no bounds.

Many of you will remember that before we knew about H1N1. I posted a open message to the President and Congress warning them to be vigilant about their health, and cautious about any medical advice they received. As I said then &quot;they will not hesitate to try and hurt you&quot;.

The U.S. and the World have been under a BIOLOGICAL TERROR ATTACK! for over a year now. It is CRITICAL that We The People Of The United States take away control of our healthcare system from the GREED DRIVEN MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!

For our own National security, and the security of the world.

A Strong, government-run, MEDICARE like Public Option CHOICE. Available to everyone on day one, with the full unfettered power of the federal government to regulate, negotiate, and control cost and quality. Would be the most workable way to deal with this global crisis at this time. Including patent suspensions as needed for national security or the greater good.

As an American I invite the peoples of the World to help us fix our healthcare crisis. And bring pressure on our government to meet it&#039;s responsibility to protect global security by controlling, and removing the corrupting influence of GREED and the PRIVATE FOR PROFIT motivations from healthcare in the U.S. and around the World.

I call on the governments of the World and the global intelligence community to track down these MASS MURDERERS, and bring them to justice. CONNECT THE DOTS! And be vigilant that they don&#039;t slip in another viral strain on you under the cloak of H1N1 sequestration.

Further, the proposed patent protection on biologic&#039;s must be stripped from the US bill. And greatly shorten/restricted, or abolished completely. This is a grave danger to humanity and global security.

I think President Obama is doing the best he can at playing the disastrous deck of cards he inherited from the previous administration. And I think he is doing an excellent job. But the wolves and devils of the medical industrial complex! are trying to exploit, and take advantage of his good heart, and desperate desire to help suffering Americans. But we must be strong and insist that healthcare reform be done right for the American people. Or everyone loose&#039;s.

This is all I can say in a message post. I&#039;ll try to find a way to tell you more later.

God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings

jacksmith - Working Class

p.s. The so-called nominal H1N1 virus is designed in such a way as to make it more lethal to children and young adults. The medical community must be more vigilant of secondary bacterial infections in the young caused by H1N1. And remember, a viral infection is also a transfer of genetic code to you. Think about it, and be vigilant. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CRITICAL!! From jacksmith &#8211; Working Class</p>
<p>My Fellow Americans and People Of The World</p>
<p>A strong Government-run MEDICARE like Public Option is CRITICAL!!</p>
<p>A Medicare Buy-in at 55 is a GOOD! idea. But!, not a substitute for a strong Medicare like public option CHOICE for everyone. Nor is the (FEHBP). Without a strong public option on day one the Senate health-care bill is a disaster for the American People and the World. Therefore you must KILL!! it. Without a strong public option the health-care reform bill is MUCH WORSE! than what we have now, and what we have now is a catastrophe. SO YOU MUST KILL!! IT.</p>
<p>What is proposed in the Senate is the worst case scenario for health-care reform. It would shift trillions of taxpayer, public and private dollars into the hands of the private insurance industry (The single most costly, deadly and dangerous product sold in America). And it would compel by law millions of Americans to financially support this oxymoronic criminal enterprise. You cant have a MANDATE WITHOUT A STRONG PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE!</p>
<p>You will have NO! realistic way of controlling cost and quality. Cost will continue soaring through the roof bleeding the American people dry, and KILLing our economy. And our quality of healthcare will continue to decline below our current ranking of &#8220;WORST! quality of healthcare delivery in the developed World&#8221;.</p>
<p>H1N1 IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION!</p>
<p>I have to tell you now that the H1N1 virus is a man-made WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION! and TERROR! It is a WEAPONIZED version of a flu virus. It has swept the planet infecting millions. And causing a global pandemic that has killed tens of thousands, and injured millions.</p>
<p>The H1N1 virus is the product of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! It was released in the U.S. in Texas in early January of this year, but not recognized until around April in California. The reason I know this is because when it came to America, it came to see me FIRST! How sweet&#8230;</p>
<p>This was around the time the MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! assaulted the Whitehouse with all their devils deals to cripple and weaken YOUR! healthcare reform. Especially your right to have a single payer system like HR676 (Medicare For All) which most of you wanted.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t even want you to have your HUGE!!! compromise position of a strong government-run MEDICARE like Public Option CHOICE. To compete with their DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, MURDEROUS, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT PRODUCT (The single most costly, deadly and dangerous product sold in America).</p>
<p>They also wanted to take away your rights to have your government meet it&#8217;s responsibility to use it&#8217;s full power to regulate, negotiate, and control drug cost, healthcare cost and quality. Something every other civilized country in the developed World has done for it&#8217;s people. Their Greed! moral degeneracy and lack of patriotism knows no bounds.</p>
<p>Many of you will remember that before we knew about H1N1. I posted a open message to the President and Congress warning them to be vigilant about their health, and cautious about any medical advice they received. As I said then &#8220;they will not hesitate to try and hurt you&#8221;.</p>
<p>The U.S. and the World have been under a BIOLOGICAL TERROR ATTACK! for over a year now. It is CRITICAL that We The People Of The United States take away control of our healthcare system from the GREED DRIVEN MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!</p>
<p>For our own National security, and the security of the world.</p>
<p>A Strong, government-run, MEDICARE like Public Option CHOICE. Available to everyone on day one, with the full unfettered power of the federal government to regulate, negotiate, and control cost and quality. Would be the most workable way to deal with this global crisis at this time. Including patent suspensions as needed for national security or the greater good.</p>
<p>As an American I invite the peoples of the World to help us fix our healthcare crisis. And bring pressure on our government to meet it&#8217;s responsibility to protect global security by controlling, and removing the corrupting influence of GREED and the PRIVATE FOR PROFIT motivations from healthcare in the U.S. and around the World.</p>
<p>I call on the governments of the World and the global intelligence community to track down these MASS MURDERERS, and bring them to justice. CONNECT THE DOTS! And be vigilant that they don&#8217;t slip in another viral strain on you under the cloak of H1N1 sequestration.</p>
<p>Further, the proposed patent protection on biologic&#8217;s must be stripped from the US bill. And greatly shorten/restricted, or abolished completely. This is a grave danger to humanity and global security.</p>
<p>I think President Obama is doing the best he can at playing the disastrous deck of cards he inherited from the previous administration. And I think he is doing an excellent job. But the wolves and devils of the medical industrial complex! are trying to exploit, and take advantage of his good heart, and desperate desire to help suffering Americans. But we must be strong and insist that healthcare reform be done right for the American people. Or everyone loose&#8217;s.</p>
<p>This is all I can say in a message post. I&#8217;ll try to find a way to tell you more later.</p>
<p>God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings</p>
<p>jacksmith &#8211; Working Class</p>
<p>p.s. The so-called nominal H1N1 virus is designed in such a way as to make it more lethal to children and young adults. The medical community must be more vigilant of secondary bacterial infections in the young caused by H1N1. And remember, a viral infection is also a transfer of genetic code to you. Think about it, and be vigilant. <img src='http://www.alterpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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